Offensive Original Sin

The article The very useful doctrine of original sin by Ross Allen published in The Briefing [Issue 344 – May 2007] explains how useful and practical the doctrine of original sin is, even though it may seem highly offensive to believe that all humans are basically bad.

When you think about human perception of their nature the general populous believes that humans are basically good, or at least ‘not bad’. Christians believe otherwise; they believe that people are inherently bad, and this is something that is regularly expressed in the Bible. Often referred to as the doctrine of ‘original sin’; one standard expression is found in Article IX of the Anglican Church’s Thirty-nine Articles of Religion:

Original Sin … is the fault and corruption of the Nature of every man, that naturally is ingendered of the offspring of Adam; whereby man is very far gone from original righteousness, and is of his own nature inclined to evil, so that the flesh lusteth always contrary to the spirit; and therefore in every person born into this world, it deserveth God’s wrath and damnation. And this infection of nature doth remain, yea in them that are regenerated; whereby the lust of the flesh … is not subject to the Law of God.

So without God and his regenerative gospel, humans do not have any ‘understanding‘ i.e. consciousness of God’s holiness, fear of or reverence for God. Instead, we are self seeking, looking out for ourselves, and this is a basic understanding of sin; It can be seen from the nature of children right through to old men.

Practically Ross suggests the following:

  1. Original sin helps us to see ourselves more clearly, and warns us against pride and complacency
  2. When a person puts their faith in God and thus becomes a Christian they have a new standing before God, a new spiritual identity, new loyalties and new obligations. Their mindset is to please God instead of self seeking. However, whilst in this life, Christians can never be without this infectious sin. It is good to remember this problem, it will help us to confess our complete reliance on God.

  3. Original sin helps up see others more clearly, and relate to them better
  4. This helps us to realise that when others stumble or mistreat us that this is also a problem of infectious sin. We are instructed to respond with love and prayer by Jesus rather than in a way that would be sinful and/or judgemental.

  5. Original sin helps us better understand the world around us
  6. The Australian governmental system is partially based on original sin. Recognising that both those who govern and those who are being governed have sinful tendencies. Recognition of this dismal truth is the starting point for providing a system that has at least some chance of providing fairness and accountability.

  7. Original sin helps us realise the need for spiritual transformation
  8. When a person becomes a Christian the natural order becomes reversed; rather than being someone naturally inclined towards evil, with a capacity to do good, they have a God-given inclination to do good with a lingering capacity to do evil.

I’d mostly agree with what Ross says in his article, however there are a few points of information to be raised. The 4th practical point seems less so; I feel that rather than being someone that is naturally inclined to do good, a Christian is less inclined to do evil, or has the God-given mindset to resist it more often. In my experience, I still think of evil things, many of them are quite horrific even, but the will and ability to act on them is less influential than when I wasn’t a Christian, or was a less mature Christian. Instead I want to be doing things that please God and are in service of others, rather than self-seeking.
The term ‘good‘ for a Christian can be mis-leading…. It’s hard to find a substitute word, but if I had to, holy would be my pick of the bunch.

What do you think of original sin?? Does it influence your life?? How about your attitude towards others??


Fervr Launch Event

Yesterday afternoon I got along to the Fervr Launch Event down at the Courtyard Marriott, North Ryde.

It was good to see a whole bunch of Christians supporting Fervr. After mingling for a bit, we all sat down to listen to Eugene Hor talk about social media and how it fits into Christianity. The most helpful point being that the tools are there, we just need to use them to facilitate Christian community. A few ways that we can do this is by being regular, and Christ focused in our statuses, updates and responses. It’s also helpful to take note of peoples updates and to pray for them.

There was also a panel with representatives from Crusaders, Scripture Union, EMI and Google, as well as other web ninjas and media aficionado. There was some interesting discussion about Gen Y and their online habits, how to reach them and what not to do.

We heard from Kitty Fung, Fervr‘s marketing manager giving a rundown of what the site does, which is a general site with plenty of Christian content covering culture, reviews, Q&A and other helpful articles, video and audio clips. Then there’s the fervr groups; a customisable site for Christian groups to create and share information and media. It’s a great resource for those that are less tech savvy, as well as having the ability for greater customisation by those that are. I think the greatest and most useful feature is the ‘find-a-group‘ google map based search function.

Overall it was an enjoyable afternoon, good to catch up with Mark Earngey in the flesh as well as meet a couple of people, like Anthony Flatt.
I did have an awkward moment with Alison OpdeVeigh where she asked me if I needed her to run me through any information on the Scripture Union table, to which I responded no, and then turned down her followup of offering me a bag. I do apologise Alison, pretty girls that I don’t know tend to make me nervous and less communicative.


Focal adjustment – Legs

I have to admit I’m a fan of legs. In the city of Sydney there is plenty of opportunity to see ladies wandering around displaying legs of all shapes and sizes, especially on a work day. The most impressive, I find, are definitely toned, usually of the longer variety, and in a pair of high heels. I find it hard not to look at them all year round. In summer, they stride around tanned and bare, and then in the colder months out comes the fancy hosiery, in all it’s various forms and patterns, from seamed to fishnets.

God is not taken aback by them, as written by the Psalmist in Psalm 147:
10 His delight is not in the strength of the horse,
nor his pleasure in the legs of a man,
11 but the Lord takes pleasure in those who fear him,
in those who hope in his steadfast love.

So I should not be as much as I am, despite them being His creation, rather, I should fear the Lord an continue my hope in his steadfast love.


Bible Study – Term 2

So far this term I’ve not mentioned what we’ve been doing in Bible Study, unlike last term. Here’s a quick catch-up:

We’ve also been starting off the night reading a range of articles based on current topics that may have come up within the group. This has been a rather interesting part of the night. We’ve read the following articles, and I’m planning on posting up a summary and thoughts on some of them.

  • Rewards in the Age to Come by Tim Thorburn
  • Getting to the heart of the Hillsong worship ‘revolution’ by Peter Collier
  • Between here and eternity by Tim Patrick
  • On the dangers of Christian shorthand: ‘Going to heaven’ by Christopher Ash
  • The very useful doctrine of original sin by Ross Allen – Summary: Offensive Original Sin

Being able to read these articles has I suppose given me some perspective on what’s been happening around Christian circles, whereas I doubt these topics or issues would have been a blip on my radar previously. Mike believes we’re an influential part of 7fifteen, so it’s good to think about things in a wider sense, both to shape the current structure moving forward, and also to guard against things which could potentially harm.

Our main line of study is Evangelism. Mike has been writing some studies based on about 5 resources which have helpful and less helpful parts to them, leaving us with the best bits of all. The last 5 topics we’ve gone through are:

  1. God’s Glory – Basically the Why
  2. Love
  3. Prayer
  4. Money
  5. Connect

in conjunction with the topics, we’ve had memory verses, similar to the ones from 2 ways to live.

So there’s the catch-up. Regular posts coming up after the weekly study.
What have you been looking at in the bible?? Are your studies engaging and interesting??


The Week Ahead

Mundane Monday off to a flying start!!

Listening to a random selection from several albums:

  • Kings of Leon – Only by the Night
  • London Elektricity – Syncopated City
  • London Elektricity – Billion Dollar Gravy
  • Mistabishi – Drop
  • Cicada – Cicada
  • Gift – 3

Diary is looking quite busy for the week. So far I’m booked in for:

  • Steak Dinner at West Ryde for Hamish’s Birthday today.


  • Bible Study on Tuesday night
  • Thursday Lunch at World Square Pub with City St Paulians
  • Work Social on Friday night, we’re having a poker night
  • MANDAY on Saturday at church. We’ll be hearing from Geoff Hall, James Moore and James Warren on Paul, a man that suffered much for the sake of the Gospel
  • Hamish’s 21st on Saturday night
  • Church on Sunday night. It’s a guest night with a guest speaker

Hoping to drop my new CHONGLAND theme in some time mid-week, it’s mostly finished, but I’m having issues getting some aesthetics looking pretty….

And from my reading this morning: Psalm 136

26 Give thanks to the God of heaven, for his steadfast love endures forever.

A great reminder to pray and thank God for the great love that He shows to us. I’m also reminded of the love that He showed in the sacrifice of Jesus.


Christmas Cards

I know that it’s now January, but as I sit here at work, there’s still cards sitting above my pod. There’s one in particular that’s caught my attention, given by one of the girls at work to another.

Part of the message inside reads:

I wish-and-pray- God will give you all happiness you deserve!

What an interesting thing to write on a card; I’m not sure whether either are Christian, I assume that the receiver is not as I constantly hear her blaspheming and swearing, but the giver seems to be ‘religious‘ in some degree. As a Christian, she should know that humans don’t deserve happiness, rather we deserve judgement. It’s only by Gods merciful grace that we are saved, and it is an undeserved gift.


January Ministry Conference

It’s been a while since I’ve written much in this WORD category, which is a little disappointing…
So let’s start in the hope to continue on strong from here on in, but by all means, keep bugging me about doing so more often!!.

This week at St Pauls Carlingford we’re having a conference called January Ministry Conference. John Chapman will be speaking at 9:30am each morning from Isaiah and Simon Flinders will speak from Romans 12 each evening at 7:15pm.

Seeing as I’m at work during the day, I’ll only be heading along to the evening sessions. I’m hoping to get a summary of them down here, so keep checking back. Hoping to see you there!! and here!!

  • Monday Night
  • Simon opened with the first 3 verses of Romans 12:

    1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. 3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.

    Romans 12 is a turning point from the previous 11 chapters of Romans which detail what Christ has done beforehand. There were several key points that Simon spoke of that stuck with me:

  • God does not expect anything of us that he’s not already done for us.
  • Worship is giving God his worth. It is not in part, at a certain time(s) or in a certain place(s), but of our whole selves, everywhere and at all times. It is like breathing.
  • The renewing of minds means that Christians live differently because we think differently, however, it is not that we ask for it, but act on it by reading and studying God’s Word in order to continually transform our life so that we may treasure God’s will.

In summary: Be surrendered to God, by the mercy of God. He knows your heart & He wants your heart. Live a life surrendered to Him, every moment of every day.

  • Tuesday Night
  • Continuing on Simon went on with a talk entitled The Life of Service from verses 4-8 of Romans 12:

    4 For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function, 5 so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. 6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith; 7 if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching; 8 the one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.

    This section talks primarily of gifts, Simon went on to define what was meant by gifts in this section. In this day and age, gifts generally refer to an ability of some sort that people praise a person for having, however it misses the fundamental fact that gifts are given, not something that is generally deserved. Therefore the credit should actually be to the giver. In this passage, God is the giver, and he does so by grace. We are to think of gifts as an opportunity or responsibility. And we are to use them for the benefit of others as tools rather than trophies. So questions to ask when using gifts are

    • Where can I serve?
    • What are ____’s needs??

    Something that’s possibly surprising in the answer is that it may not necessarily play to your abilities or talents, but something that you’re mediocre or even poor at doing.

    How does this all work out in The Life of Service? Well as part of the surrendered life, we give ourselves to God by giving to his body, ie those that are Christians. We’re not to be consumerists or individualists as that is against what Paul is saying, rather we are to demonstrate reciprocal service. Failure of one affects the whole, so we are to be a member of a body, with a function, alongside others. As ALL serve, ALL are blessed.

  • Wednesday Night
  • A really enjoyable, encouraging and challenging talk from Simon. The title of the talk was The Life of Love from verses 9-13 of Romans 12:

    9 Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good. 10 Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor. 11 Do not be slothful in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. 12 Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. 13 Contribute to the needs of the saints and seek to show hospitality.

    The main encouragement for this section of the text is verse 9. Simon mentioned that the word genuine here is more correctly translated as un-hypocritical, that makes sense; true love being genuine, wanting what is best for people, and not necessarily what they think is good for them. That linked in really well with the next part of the text; to be concerned with good and evil, loving what is good, but with a genuine love, the love of a married couple, and fleeing from that which is evil. This verse underpins verses 10 to 13, which is essentially Paul, and Gods, top ten in living the life surrendered; helping to clarify the exhortation in verse 9 and how that is lived out. We are to think, pray and immerse ourselves in these things as part of the surrendered life.

  • Thursday Night
  • The final talk in a fantastic series of four from Simon Flinders that have been eye-opening, damning, rebuking and encouraging. This final talk was entitled The Good Life and was looking at responding to evil from Romans 12: 14-21:

    14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. 17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

    There is plenty to be unpacked here in these verses, the first vital point was that ALL will respond to evil; it will distinguish us from the world and allow us to influence and affect the world in a sense. Verse 14 puts out a very tough and challenging exhortation, further emphasizing that given in verse 9, yet extending it by application to those against us.
    Verses 15 & 16 are also hard to live by, and all impossible without the genuine love previously mentioned… Simon explained that this is more than just empathizing with people, but a genuine sharing of feelings. It is both relevant within the Church, which would result in an absolutely amazing community (something that we should plead God for), and to do for those outside of the Church; a HUGE challenge… It is something we need to carry out humbly.
    The last 4 verses of this chapter exhort the readers to live honorably and peacefully with all, emphasizing those that do evil to you. We are to be known for doing what’s honorable; rising above evil with stunning goodness. We are not to take action in avenging ourselves, but to let God do so as he is the only just one to do so, rather we are to do good to our enemies.

    Overall the week of JMC was enjoyable and challenging. For me it was a bit of a rebuke about how I go at work and respond to some of the injustices I face there. I’ve actively made some changes there, ask me how they’re going sometime.


    Weekend wrapup

    Monday morning; time for start-up meetings, long train ticket queues and general dismay around the office due to mondayitis…. Also a time for me to recount my experiences from the weekend that was; this week with 3 in particular.

    • Mighty Kites Training
    • The Mighty Kites are back on the court this Thursday for summer comp and we had out first ever training session, minus goliaths Geoff and Nima. Mostly a good session, however, I felt less of a team dynamic than desired.

    • Godskitchen: Angels In White Party
    • I got along to this party down at Homebush in on of the warehouses next to ‘the dome’. Quite an unprecedented lineup with 4 international DJs taking the decks: Jon O’Bir, Menno De Jong, Sander van Doorn and John O’Callaghan. I hadn’t been to a big trance party for quite some time, perhaps 18 months to 2 years, having taken up the club and festival route, and losing my party crew to marriage, age and musical evolution. The night was long, I was there from about 11 and left at close, which was about 6am. The crowd was smaller than expected, but that just meant that I had more room to dance in and boy did I take up that opportunity. Plenty of comments on how amazing and unique my style was….

    • St Thomas’ 7pm
    • I skipped out on my regular St Paul’s Carlingford 7fifteen service to go and hear a mate Mark Earngey preach on Masculinity, he’s currently a student minister there. Mark certainly looked the part with one eye covered up, it wasn’t for dramatic effect though as he’d been hit by a cricket ball on Saturday. The sermon he gave was based on Genesis 2:4-25 & a definition given by John Piper in the book Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood:

      At the Heart of Mature Masculinity is a sense of Benevolent Responsibility to lead, provide for and protect women in ways appropriate to a man’s differing relationships.

      His three main areas of focus were pattern, particulars and progress.
      Pattern ran through the passage and linked the Piper definition with parts of the passage – The order of creation; man then woman, the moral responsibility to set a moral pattern given to man and how man is primarily responsible.
      Particulars addressed how these things apply to particular situations – married, single, dating, Christian ministry and workplaces.
      Finally Progress enlightened the avid male listeners to take steps to ‘own’ their masculinity but humbling ourselves before God for our failures and taking up our responsibilities. One good point that Mark brought up was that men generally seem to have a fear of rejection and that we should take steps, small at first in overcoming that, and as an aside for the women, that they should look to nurture rather than ‘hurt’ when it comes to assuming the negative.

      For more Earngey wisdom, check out his blog: seeing in a mirror dimly. I was also impressed with the prayers at St Thomas’ and intrigued/surprised by the fact that they have a resident film reviewer who, this week, reviewed the movie WALL-E

    Apart from that there was a bit of PS3: NBA 2k9 on Friday night, Diablo 2 and movies on Saturday whilst checking the Blizzcon 2008 announcements every now (roundup of Diablo III and Starcraft II info to follow suit shortly) and then and recovery sleep on Sunday….


    Engage 08

    Over the weekend I drifted up to Katoomba with about 2,500 other workers for the second annual Engage Conference; aimed specifically at Christian workers. It’s a little different than other Katoomba Christian Convention (KCC) organised conventions, with a catch-phrase of ‘late starts and coffee carts’. This year a couple of drawcard speakers were on board: Mark Driscoll and Don Carson, resulting in tickets being sold out within minutes. The talks were to address the question of “So, is this it??“.

    Driscoll was first off the ranks as Carson was still airborne on the friday night when things kicked off. Throughout the weekend Driscoll would speak on the gospel of John. Mark gave us some background on John; being one of Jesus’ inner inner circle who shared in the most intimate moments of His life. He also mentioned that the gospel of John was the last one written, having 92% of it’s content unique and targeted at the Greek people. The Friday night session covered most of John 1:1-18 and then 3:1-8 which addressed who Jesus was; the Word and the son of God, and why he came; as a missionary so that we may be born again or regenerated, making the differentiation between being religious & regenerated. This regeneration doctrine says that when one is born again the Holy Spirit takes up residence in a persons heart and changes them, giving them

    • a new Lord
    • A new identity
    • A new mind
    • New desires
    • New power
    • New life

    Driscoll’s second talk was around John 4 which tells of Jesus encounter with a Samaritan woman at a well. Mark continued to speak of regenerative doctrine and expanded into worship, this is a way that God has Glory. He mentioned that readers should put themselves in the position of the sinner that encounters Jesus. I guess I’ve never really thought to do this explicitly. Mark gave the ultimatum of whether we worship creator or creation. His final point was to ask some questions for people to ponder:

    • What do you long for most?
    • Where do you run to for comfort?
    • What makes you angry with God?
    • What do you make sacrifices for?
    • Who’s approval do you seek?
    • What makes you happiest?

    The third Driscoll talk was to cover John 6 which tells of Jesus feeding of the five thousand, but he cut this very very short (3 minutes, if that??) to answer questions put forward by the audience by way of SMS to a mobile specifically setup to take them. Now whilst this hour of question time was useful, I would have preferred at least a half/half split due to the uniqueness of Johns’ gospel would have liked to hear how this part was different from the other books. Someone pointed out that all of the questions did seem to ask about themselves and what they should do, which were contrary to what Mark had been speaking about in the previous talks. He also seemed to use them as a springboard into things that he wanted to talk about that were slightly related.

    Carson was the speaker for Saturday evening after landing in Sydney sometime that afternoon. His talk was on Matthew 11, more specifically on Christian identity and how that is grounded in Jesus. Most of the content in the chapter is about John the Baptist: Jesus sending a message to him and then speaking to the people about him. The talk was broken down into a few sub-sections:

    • Portrait of a discouraged Baptist
    • John is discouraged because not only is he in prison, but he’s heard of the deeds of Christ, which he’s longed to see. He sends his disciples to ask of Jesus, who sends a rather cryptic reply in language very similar to that used in scripture: Isaiah 35: 5 & 6 and Isaiah 61. These two passages speak of the day of The Lord – when the messiah will come to restore things, however in the context of the scriptures there is also mention of massive judgement, which Jesus doesn’t address in his message, rather he hints at the blessings that are starting to be fulfilled in himself

    • Portrait of a defended Baptist
    • John is defended by Jesus!! Jesus questions the crowd asking what they came out to see. If it was a shaken reed, representing something that was weak & limp, or a man in soft clothing, signifying a rich man; someone who would give hand-outs, or a prophet, which is what John is. He is the one that Malachi prophesied about, not unlike Elijah. He is the greatest because he introduces Jesus: Gods visitation to Earth.

    • Portrait of an eclipsed Baptist
    • John is indeed greater than those born of women because he points to Jesus with greater clarity, yet the least in the kingdom, i.e.; those living after Jesus death & resurrection are greater still then John. Yet those against the kingdom of Heaven have been forcefully advancing, trying to take it by force and exploit it. Jesus then goes on to explain how this generation didn’t accept John & doesn’t accept Jesus in the roles they played, drawing from the scriptures again to show fulfillment of them and to illustrate how John & Jesus’ roles were different and both unaccepted.

    Sunday morning Carson spoke first, running through Psalm 40 which was excellent. I have a real appreciation for Carson on Psalms after hearing him speak on Psalm 1 about 5 years ago. One pearl of wisdom he gave was that it was common that older Christians tended to read, enjoy and understand the Psalms as they’d had enough diverse experiences to understand this diverse collection of work, however if you are to read and study them at a younger age, they will help you through through those situations in life.
    He went on to explain how Psalm 40 was the last in a triplet from 37; which talks about the Psalmist waiting on God, 38 & 39; the Psalmist going through a phase of self-examination, and then turning to joy in Psalm 40. The talk was particularly encouraging in how God looks after us in times of struggle, which were referred to as a miry bog. Carson said that were either removed from the bog or kept there as God heaps grace on us to help others in the same or similar situations.

    The final Driscoll talk was from John 10, which is about Jesus the shepherd and sheep.
    He spoke of how much of a sacrifice the shepherd makes for his flock in great detail, especially how horrible his crucifixion was, making quite a number of people around me cringe and weep, definitely putting things into perspective.

    So there is a wrap up of the speakers… The social aspects of the weekend mainly frustrated me as the group I went with was particularly cliquey, as I guess most Christian groups tend towards, so I didn’t have much of a chance to interact and converse with them. I did get a chance to catch a few friends from days gone by like Mark & Jess Bootes, Phil from ACC (Asian Church Carlingford) and Dave Irving. I also had an alright time on Saturday evening with the Guthries, Lawsons, Lovells, Russells, Tooses, Geoff, Tiff and Issac; watching the hopeless union match, drinking beer and discussing various aspects of Engage up to that point. I also found myself serving the cliquey group by cleaning the house and washing dishes by myself on the Sunday morning which seemed to fuel the weekends fire….

    Overall a great weekend for Christian teaching which has set my mind racing over changes going on in my life and how to approach things, but a less than mediocre time for relationships which has also set in motion some steps to help me in that respect and possibly be less accommodating and polite.

    I’ve also picked up a Mark Driscoll power pack of 7 books, so expect to be hearing about those sometime after I’ve waded through reading them.